Ff13 who is ragnarok

Second, he prevented the party from turning into a Cie'th, giving them the chance to beat Barthandelus and destroy Orphan. Oh and don't listen to ellis User Info: dinokiller Yes, that was Ragnarok. A weakened version of it, but Ragnarok. The people are Fang and Vanille, mirroring the end, and the horse is Odin.

And they did turn into Crystal. Did you not watch the ending? Either way, they got better. And the maker was a lie. Like the cake, only they don't explicitly state it.

And Orphan is a Fal'Cie, he doesn't turn into one. Barthandelus was his name as a "human. User Info: ellis Orphan's job? To take over the world of course. What good JRPG villian would do otherwise? And Odin symbolizes Lightning, the main character. It's to show their connection. And they came back because of Vanille and Fang. They "gave their lives" to allow the rest of them to live theirs.

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Answered May I restart a mission already completed? She but looked on, silent in Her sorrow. The Goddess pitied mortals, destined as they were to die, and so She deigned to intervene in the hour of their greatest peril.

She averted cataclysm that was to be, and put to rest the ones who would have robbed so many of what time fate had ordained. Her compassion did not end at this. The Goddess pitied also those subjected to that fate of Focus, crueler still than death. To them She sent Her messengers, to deliver hope when all was lost. Last edited by Toph ; 16 Aug, pm. I typed way too much already, but I think it's also worth pointing out more one thing. The source of those datalogs entries I quoted, Paddra Nsu-Yeul, is actually a pivotal character in sequels.

It's really cool to see how small, but interesting, references like these end up coming full cycle in the end. I'd like to add two things to the above. That's why it was vulnerable to the party's attacks when they came back from being Cie'th.

Second, it's true that they were basically making a leap of faith when they decided to kill Orphan, assuming that they would somehow find a way to save Cocoon without knowing what that way might be. However, it can be argued that it's actually quite rational to make a leap of faith at that point since the party had just experienced a literal miracle.

They had the benefit of knowing that god or at least a god was backing them up. Last edited by tiornys ; 16 Aug, pm. Originally posted by tiornys :. So they needed to turn into Ragnarok in order to destroy Orphan, not Cocoon? The way I understood it, I tought they had to destroy Orphan to gain the power to turn into Ragnarok and destroy Cocoon, or something like that. Still, how's Fang able being an incomplete Ragnarok and all to destroy the barrier around Orphan?

Also, I'm still not sure I understand why Fang's mark is different to the ones the rest of the characters have. Wouldn't it make more sense if both Fang and Vanille's marks where different? This mysterious being fuels the fal'Cie Eden with the power necessary to maintain Cocoon's complex operational systems, and as such, its death would bring about Cocoon's certain destruction. If they can transform into Ragnarok and destroy Orphan, Cocoon's demise will be assured.

One thing I was wondering tho, how did Dahj and Serah come out of crystal stasis? Was it because the heros protected cocoon, or was it cuz the falcie had lost their power?

Or was it another miracle? Odinsknight View Profile View Posts. Originally posted by mattshaneworkman :. Commitment issues? I won't even open emails if they come with attachments. I get what Ragnarok is from Norse mythology although I appreciate you expanding on it, very interesting and I know it is a creature destined to end the world, but hat doesn't answer what it is?

I guess what I'm getting to, is is it possible they performed the same or similar ritual to Caius, able to become one with their summon.

Thus becoming the fabled Ragnarok. That would make Ragnarok not an actual summon, but rather just a name for the prophecy.

It doesn't explain why fang didn't die asis supposed to happen after the ritual though It was certainly implied if not explicitly stated back in XIII. In fact, there were probably previous individuals who succeeded, as I'll explain in a bit. They probably said that l'cie who become Ragnarok die because either their Foci is filled because they caused enough havoc not necessarily the total destruction of Cocoon and they become crystals, at which point they may as well be dead, or they get shot down trying.

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